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Welcome to CX Leadership Talks, where we dive deep into the world of customer experience and leadership. In today’s episode, we have a special guest, Martijn van den Berg, who will be sharing his insights into creating meaningful experiences for customers in the financial industry. Martijn leads a CX team at PGB, a leading pension fund in the Netherlands, and has a wealth of experience in integrating customer experience into business strategies.

In this episode

Join us as Martijn discusses the transformation of PGB into a customer-centric organization, his journey in the field of business communication, and the importance of internal cultural changes in driving customer-centricity.

Get ready for an engaging and insightful conversation with Martijn van den Berg and host Nienke Bloem as we explore the strategies and principles behind building a customer-centric culture in the financial sector.

About Martijn van den Berg (visit his LinkedIn profile here)

As Lead Customer Experience Management, Martijn is responsible for structurally organizing Pension fund PGB’s own and consistent brand and customer experience. The aim is that the fund can distinguish itself in terms of customer focus and knows how to “touch” its customers. Together with the CX team, Martijn has developed the pension fund’s own CX framework, which consists of 4 pillars: Strategy & Identity, Market and Customer Insight, Customer Service and Culture & Organization.

Martijn van den Berg has a passion for customer satisfaction and efficiency. As a Lead Customer Experience Management, he was inspired by the video ‘Give ‘em the pickle’ by Bob Farrell, about a restaurant manager who started his second restaurant. In the video, a customer complained about being charged an extra 75¢ for a pickle, which had always been free. This resonated with Martijn, reminding him of the importance of maintaining consistent and fair pricing for the customers. This experience helped shape his approach to managing PGB’s customer experience, prioritizing clear communication and fair pricing for his customers.

Want to grow as a CX Leader? Contact Nienke Bloem via her website www.nienkebloem.com. She is a CX expert and can provide you with the guidance and support you need to succeed in CX leadership.

Timestamped overview

00:00 Making pension products more attractive for customers.

03:38 Exciting meeting to discuss pension strategy.

08:20 Building a successful customer experience team.

12:39 Feedback, communication training, strategy implementation, and organization types.

14:09 Understanding strengths, building results, and enthusiastic work.

17:27 Pension funds must regain trust through CX.

22:54 Improved onboarding process led to better ratings.

24:11 Pension funds-critical for B2B companies’ growth.

30:05 Measurement changed, aiming for 3 stars. Signal management.

32:16 Seek external perspectives to improve and progress.

36:44 Woman left supermarket with almost empty bag.

41:16 Facebook’s strategy emphasizes cultural elements and consistency.

42:03 Building engagement through smart, consistent work progress.

45:23 3E model, great approach, advice for listeners.

Martijn’s recommendations

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Do you celebrate your successes? I think you should. In fact, strategy 49 is ‘Celebrate success’. Let your achievements kick in.

My parents taught me to celebrate all you can celebrate. And they were right. So, this video is about celebrations and why they should be part of your business too.

I read aloud a chapter every week. Enjoy listening to my book ‘CX is a pilgrimage’. I do hope that I’ll inspire you to spice up your journey as a business leader, a CX leader, or maybe even as a leader in your personal life. 

Subscribe to my YouTube channel and you’ll be notified if another chapter appears! 

Would you rather read ‘CX is a pilgrimage’? You can find it online on Amazon or – in the Netherlands and Belgium – in any bookstore online.

Strategy 48 is ‘Pass your knowledge on’. And the reason for this is simple: your experience is valuable to others. And the more experience you have, the more knowledge, wisdom and stories you have to share.

Don’t think that no one is waiting for your story. Silence that saboteur in you. Straight away. Are you still in doubt? Then it’s high time to watch this video!

I read aloud a chapter every week. Enjoy listening to my book ‘CX is a pilgrimage’. I do hope that I’ll inspire you to spice up your journey as a business leader, a CX leader, or maybe even as a leader in your personal life. 

Subscribe to my YouTube channel and you’ll be notified if another chapter appears! 

Would you rather read ‘CX is a pilgrimage’? You can find it online on Amazon or – in the Netherlands and Belgium – in any bookstore online.

You don’t know what you don’t know. That is what Strategy 47 is all about. Even when you think you know everything about a certain topic, reality proves you wrong. And once you know, you can’t unknow…

Do you think you know all there is to know about a certain topic? Think again and watch this video ????!

I read aloud a chapter every week. Enjoy listening to my book ‘CX is a pilgrimage’. I do hope that I’ll inspire you to spice up your journey as a business leader, a CX leader, or maybe even as a leader in your personal life. 

Subscribe to my YouTube channel and you’ll be notified if another chapter appears! 

Would you rather read ‘CX is a pilgrimage’? You can find it online on Amazon or – in the Netherlands and Belgium – in any bookstore online.

Strategy number 46 is a strategy that I actually apply or at least try to apply every day: always mix business with pleasure. As an international speaker I travel a lot. And I know that many colleagues try to fit in as many assignments in their schedule as possible, to optimize their business profit.

Well, I don’t. Why? In this video I’ll explain. Curious? Let’s find out!

I read aloud a chapter every week. Enjoy listening to my book ‘CX is a pilgrimage’. I do hope that I’ll inspire you to spice up your journey as a business leader, a CX leader, or maybe even as a leader in your personal life. 

Subscribe to my YouTube channel and you’ll be notified if another chapter appears! 

Would you rather read ‘CX is a pilgrimage’? You can find it online on Amazon or – in the Netherlands and Belgium – in any bookstore online.

Strategy 45: Be aware of boar. What do wild boar have to do with CX Management and Leadership? Honestly? If there is a connection – no guarantees – you’ll find it out in this video.

And if there’s not, well, you have watched a fun story anyway, about eh… boar!

I read aloud a chapter every week. Enjoy listening to my book. I do hope that I’ll inspire you to spice up your journey as a business leader, a CX leader, or maybe even as a leader in your personal life. 

Subscribe to my YouTube channel and you’ll be notified if another chapter appears! 

Would you rather read my book? You can find it online on Amazon or – in the Netherlands and Belgium – in any bookstore online.

 

Making the truth versus Finding the truth. This Nienke Bloem philosophy is strategy 43. Two different approaches with a huge difference. Want to know which approach you should use to get started when you’re responsible for customer centric change in the domain of customer contact, and engage with the leadership team on the right strategy to follow?

See if you can find the truth or if you have to make the truth: I’ll show you in this video!

I read aloud a chapter every week. Enjoy listening to my book. I do hope that I’ll inspire you to spice up your journey as a business leader, a CX leader, or maybe even as a leader in your personal life. 

Subscribe to my YouTube channel and you’ll be notified if another chapter appears! 

Would you rather read my book? You can find it online on Amazon or – in the Netherlands and Belgium – in any bookstore online.

Strategy 42 is “Your ‘Why’, or what are you here for?” When you’re a leader, Simon Sinek’s golden circle is a great tool to define in your own words the purpose of your role within the organization. Relevant questions are ‘What is your assignment?’ and ‘When are you a success?’

Perhaps you should ask yourself a different question. Find out which question it is in this video.

I read aloud a chapter every week. Enjoy listening to my book. I do hope that I’ll inspire you to spice up your journey as a business leader, a CX leader, or maybe even as a leader in your personal life. 

Subscribe to my YouTube channel and you’ll be notified if another chapter appears! 

Would you rather read my book? You can find it online on Amazon or – in the Netherlands and Belgium – in any bookstore online.

When they Zig, you Zag. That is what Strategy 41 is all about. Or to put this in my own words: ‘Do something different to stand out from the crowd’. Whether in your change program or in personal life, take some time to zoom out and see the broader picture. And more important: think of where you can stand out.

Curious of the how to and why? Watch this video!

I read aloud a chapter every week. Enjoy listening to my book. I do hope that I’ll inspire you to spice up your journey as a business leader, a CX leader, or maybe even as a leader in your personal life. 

Subscribe to my YouTube channel and you’ll be notified if another chapter appears! 

Would you rather read my book? You can find it online on Amazon or – in the Netherlands and Belgium – in any bookstore online.

Strategy 40 is about the power of routines. Building a step-by-step routine and tailoring it to your own wishes makes you happier, gets you more things done and makes you feel good and proud.

In this video I’ll share the secrets of my personal and business routines. I found out that routines do not only work for me, but also connect me with others. Learn more on this in this video!

I read aloud a chapter every week. Enjoy listening to my book. I do hope that I’ll inspire you to spice up your journey as a business leader, a CX leader, or maybe even as a leader in your personal life. 

Subscribe to my YouTube channel and you’ll be notified if another chapter appears! 

Would you rather read my book? You can find it online on Amazon or – in the Netherlands and Belgium – in any bookstore online.